1 00:00:01,189 --> 00:00:02,730 Previously, on L .A. Law. 2 00:00:02,950 --> 00:00:07,710 Mr. Becker, am I correct in assuming that you're interested in entering into 3 00:00:07,710 --> 00:00:09,990 some sort of romantic relationship with me? 4 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:14,310 Possible inappropriateness of such candor notwithstanding, interested would 5 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:15,690 far too mild of a word. 6 00:00:16,030 --> 00:00:17,650 Please understand something. 7 00:00:18,130 --> 00:00:20,490 I don't believe in recreational sex. 8 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:24,350 Do not deprive each other so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, 1 9 00:00:24,350 --> 00:00:28,830 Corinthians, chapter 7. Paul's letter to the Corinthians was referring to 10 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:29,830 married couples. 11 00:00:30,170 --> 00:00:31,170 I'm a virgin. 12 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:35,810 I'm a virgin by choice, and I will remain a virgin until the night of my 13 00:00:35,810 --> 00:00:36,810 wedding. 14 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:43,630 Night of my... The answer is yes. 15 00:00:47,470 --> 00:00:48,850 Can I look now? 16 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:50,430 No, not yet. 17 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:51,630 Please. 18 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:55,110 Okay. 19 00:00:55,490 --> 00:00:57,210 Now you can look. Oh, 20 00:00:58,710 --> 00:00:59,710 you got... 21 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:02,250 I stopped on the way to work this morning. 22 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:06,230 We should do that before we're married. 23 00:01:06,690 --> 00:01:07,690 Oh. 24 00:01:08,210 --> 00:01:10,450 Well, we have to see if they fit. 25 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:12,590 Right. 26 00:01:16,150 --> 00:01:17,550 Let me do it. Oh, yeah. 27 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:19,290 La, la, la, la. 28 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:21,790 Oh, 29 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,670 the judge, he faxed me the wedding vows. 30 00:01:26,370 --> 00:01:29,880 So... If you want, we could practice before Saturday. 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Wow. 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Those are a lot of words. 33 00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:38,580 Yeah. Last time I just said, I do. 34 00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:39,980 What do you mean? 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,220 Well, when I got married before, we just said, I do. 36 00:01:46,580 --> 00:01:47,820 You got married before? 37 00:01:48,140 --> 00:01:50,020 I told you that, Benny. 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Didn't I? 39 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:54,420 No. 40 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:56,240 I thought I did. 41 00:01:57,550 --> 00:01:58,710 I guess I didn't. 42 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:03,630 But it doesn't matter, though. It was a long time ago. 43 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:05,250 How long were you married? 44 00:02:05,890 --> 00:02:12,430 About three days. Then my parents found out, and I haven't seen them much after 45 00:02:12,430 --> 00:02:13,430 that. 46 00:02:14,370 --> 00:02:16,510 Did your parents make you get a divorce? 47 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:18,990 We didn't tell them we got married. 48 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:21,410 How did you get a divorce? 49 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:24,450 I guess we didn't. 50 00:02:26,620 --> 00:02:28,860 Do you think that that would be a problem? 51 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:05,080 Rosalie forgot to mention she was married. 52 00:04:05,340 --> 00:04:08,860 Yeah, she was in high school. She and another retarded kid ran away to Reno. 53 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,300 They got married, lived in a motel for a few days. 54 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,620 Neither one of them told their parents about the wedding. So Rosalie figured 55 00:04:14,620 --> 00:04:17,160 since they didn't really live together, they weren't really married. 56 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,880 How do you get a divorce finalized by Saturday? 57 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,959 I'm not going for a divorce. I'm going for annulment. 58 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,620 They were both underage. Neither one had parental consent. All I have to do is 59 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:29,260 get the husband to sign a declaration to that effect. Walk it past the judge. No 60 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:29,859 big deal. 61 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:31,320 Well, I hope you're right. Let's get started. 62 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,280 Joyce versus Westland City School Board, wrongful termination. 63 00:04:35,540 --> 00:04:36,540 That's mine. 64 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Michael Joyce is a high school biology teacher. School board fired him for 65 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,340 including a discussion of creation science in a senior honors biology 66 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:48,840 Good. Let's continue. Alvarez versus National... Wait a minute. I'd like to 67 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,360 a little bit more about Jane's case, if you don't mind. What would you like to 68 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,860 know? Tell me that we're representing the school board. No, we're not. We're 69 00:04:54,860 --> 00:04:55,860 representing Michael Joyce. 70 00:04:56,190 --> 00:05:00,470 Why? That's who approached us. Well, he didn't exactly approach us, Leland. No, 71 00:05:00,470 --> 00:05:04,150 that's right. He approached Jane. Jane came to me, and I approved. Wait a 72 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:07,730 minute. Jane, this guy teaches creationism in public schools? In a 73 00:05:07,730 --> 00:05:11,850 class, no less. He teaches both evolution and creationism in a 74 00:05:11,850 --> 00:05:15,390 designed to permit the students to make up their own minds. So now we are 75 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:18,610 opposed to the separation of church and state. Is that right? We are lining up 76 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:22,230 against the First Amendment. I don't believe what Michael did was violative 77 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:25,410 the First Amendment. Leland, at the very minimum... Should this not have been 78 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:28,350 discussed among the partners prior to taking the case? I wasn't aware that we 79 00:05:28,350 --> 00:05:31,770 had to be in ideological agreement with every client we represent. 80 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:35,330 With all due respect, Leland, I think that's a little disingenuous. This isn't 81 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:38,870 your garden variety adversarial contest. This dispute is entirely ideological. 82 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:43,610 Yes, it is. And there are attorneys here with differing ideological as well as 83 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:47,250 religious persuasions. I don't think that Michael Joyce deserved to be fired 84 00:05:47,250 --> 00:05:50,630 teaching his students that one explanation for how the world came into 85 00:05:50,630 --> 00:05:51,750 that God created it. 86 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:53,110 Nor do I. Oh. 87 00:05:53,450 --> 00:05:57,090 Nor do you. And are you going to favor us with a biblical citation? No, I'm 88 00:05:57,250 --> 00:06:00,650 I'm simply going to say that each one of us at different times has represented 89 00:06:00,650 --> 00:06:04,510 clients or causes that others have found odious. That's not the point. This 90 00:06:04,510 --> 00:06:08,830 young woman is entitled to the same latitude now that we've afforded each 91 00:06:08,830 --> 00:06:09,649 in the past. 92 00:06:09,650 --> 00:06:14,270 And as far as biblical citations, Stuart, I believe that which is writ 93 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:16,090 the book of Job, chapter 33. 94 00:06:16,690 --> 00:06:18,670 The Spirit of God hath made me. 95 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:22,610 The breath of the Almighty hath given me life. 96 00:06:23,770 --> 00:06:27,150 Thank you. With that, it is done. 97 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:37,590 Jane, don't hesitate to let me know if you need any help with this case. 98 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:40,650 Dad? 99 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:44,050 Hi, baby. 100 00:06:44,970 --> 00:06:46,330 What are you doing here? 101 00:06:46,990 --> 00:06:48,330 I came to see the trial. 102 00:06:48,610 --> 00:06:50,790 Why didn't you call me and tell me that you were coming? 103 00:06:51,030 --> 00:06:53,710 Because you have enough on your mind without worrying about me. 104 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:59,670 Uh, Arnold, this is my father, Reverend Halliday. I'm Becker. 105 00:06:59,890 --> 00:07:02,870 How do you do, Mr. Becker? Very nice to meet you. Likewise, Reverend. 106 00:07:03,730 --> 00:07:06,650 I'm sure I don't have to tell you your daughter is a great pleasure to have 107 00:07:06,650 --> 00:07:09,930 around. No, you don't, Mr. Becker. If it had been up to me, she'd never left 108 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:12,350 Oklahoma. Well, I have to get to court. 109 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:15,050 Reverend, maybe the three of us can go out and have lunch while you're in town. 110 00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:16,230 Oh, I don't think so. 111 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,680 How about tomorrow? 112 00:07:17,860 --> 00:07:21,440 Oh, tomorrow I have to come back here and have lunch at my desk. We could join 113 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,520 you. No, no, I have to work. 114 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Well, Reverend, you and I should go out then. Get me a tuna sandwich on rye, and 115 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,200 I'll be here at 1 o 'clock. 116 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Should we go? 117 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,460 Nice to meet you. Bye -bye. 118 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:42,580 What sort of academic credentials do you have, Dr. 119 00:07:42,660 --> 00:07:44,500 Joyce? I have a Ph .D. in biology. 120 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,780 My thesis was in evolutionary theory. 121 00:07:47,060 --> 00:07:50,060 And how long have you been teaching biology at Westland High? 122 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,319 Nine years. 123 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,980 In that time, what kind of evaluations have you gotten from your supervisors? 124 00:07:55,580 --> 00:07:58,600 Only good ones. In fact, last year I was offered a promotion to an 125 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,180 administrative position, which I declined. 126 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Why did you decline? 127 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,620 Because I love to teach. That's all I've ever wanted to do. In your discussions 128 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:11,380 of the origins of life on Earth in your senior honors science class, did you 129 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:13,300 teach your students about evolution? 130 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,940 Absolutely. Did you teach it as the dominant scientific theory regarding the 131 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:22,420 origin of life? Yes, I did. Did you also teach your students the theory of 132 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:23,420 creation science? 133 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Yes, I did. Why'd you do so? 134 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,340 Because creation science is another explanation for the origins of life. 135 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:31,120 What, if anything, did the school board do in response? 136 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,400 They instructed me to cease and desist to teach anything to do with creationism 137 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,259 in my classroom. 138 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:37,260 Did you comply? 139 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:38,799 No, I did not. 140 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:40,140 Why didn't you? 141 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,299 Because as a teacher, I believe in the right to explore alternative theories. 142 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,980 I want my students to challenge and question and analyze. I want them to 143 00:08:48,980 --> 00:08:50,920 to think for themselves and not just absorb information. 144 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,540 And I'm doing what I'm doing because I believe it's right. 145 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,920 And as far as I'm concerned, that is the most important lesson I can teach them. 146 00:08:58,060 --> 00:08:59,820 Thank you. I have no further questions. 147 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,220 Are you a Christian, Dr. Joyce? 148 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:03,560 Objection irrelevant. 149 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,100 We're trying to determine whether this man is teaching science or religion. His 150 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:08,480 own religious beliefs are relevant. 151 00:09:08,780 --> 00:09:11,260 It's what he does, not what he believes that's relevant. 152 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Objection is sustained. 153 00:09:12,860 --> 00:09:16,760 Did you ever make your students aware of your religious beliefs, sir? I never 154 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,820 hid it from them. I also never took class time to discuss them. Oh, did you 155 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:22,200 about them other than during class time? 156 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:23,660 Objection irrelevant. 157 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Your Honor, the way in which his students perceived this man is directly 158 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,420 relevant. Objection overruled. 159 00:09:29,690 --> 00:09:30,970 Witness may answer. Sir? 160 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:34,350 I ran a Bible study class on weekends. 161 00:09:35,070 --> 00:09:36,610 Some of my high school students attended. 162 00:09:36,930 --> 00:09:39,950 So it's fair to say, is it not, that the students in your biology class knew 163 00:09:39,950 --> 00:09:43,670 that you yourself were a Christian? Is that bad? Ask that the witness be 164 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:46,930 instructed to answer the question. Yes, they knew I was a Christian. They knew, 165 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:50,550 did they not, that to you creationism was not just another theory. 166 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:53,330 Creationism was the way it happened. 167 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:55,170 Creationism was the word of God. 168 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:59,090 Objection, Badger. My religious beliefs do not dictate what I do in my science 169 00:09:59,090 --> 00:10:03,430 class. What I taught my students was appropriate curriculum for biology 170 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:06,320 to be taught. Did not. Your principal informed you there was, in fact, 171 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,160 inappropriate. Yes. That the curriculum was not to include the teaching of 172 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,119 creation science. 173 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,980 Yes, he did. Yet you went right on teaching it. Yes. Thank you. Nothing 174 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,860 Your Honor. What are you all so afraid of? You may step down, Mr. Joyce. Well, 175 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,580 what is so threatening about a teacher uttering the name of God? Mr. Joyce. 176 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Let me walk you through this, Tim. 177 00:10:30,940 --> 00:10:32,240 I've prepared the papers. 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Once you and Rosalie sign the papers, I'll file them with the court, and it'll 179 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,960 be as though you two were never married. 180 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,200 It's as easy as that. 181 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:45,060 An annulment is quicker than a divorce. It's simpler. It's also way cheaper. 182 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:48,140 Yeah, plus it'll let them get married on Saturday. 183 00:10:49,020 --> 00:10:50,020 Right. 184 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,380 Are you going to invite me to their wedding? 185 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,900 No. You want to come? 186 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:00,140 Maybe I do. 187 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:03,400 Naturally, you are free to hire an attorney, although this is all pretty 188 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,320 straightforward. Why don't you read it over? If you have any questions, I'll 189 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,320 explain it. 190 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,320 If you want to, you can take it home and show it to someone else. You can do 191 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,300 that, too. The only thing I ask is that we get this done by tomorrow. 192 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,180 How come you never call me back, Rosalie? 193 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,260 I don't know. It was a long, long time ago. I don't remember. 194 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:27,980 I called you every day for two weeks, and you never returned my call. 195 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:29,890 My mom didn't want me to. 196 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:31,970 You always do what your mom wants? No. 197 00:11:32,570 --> 00:11:33,570 Then why didn't you call back? 198 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:37,710 Arnie, might I suggest that we stick to the here and now? 199 00:11:39,050 --> 00:11:40,590 First you walked out on me. 200 00:11:41,330 --> 00:11:42,770 Then you ignored me. 201 00:11:44,130 --> 00:11:49,070 Now you call me, after all this time, to sign this paper so you can marry 202 00:11:49,070 --> 00:11:53,310 somebody else? Tim, we're all men of the world here. We've all loved and lost. 203 00:11:53,890 --> 00:11:55,010 Admittedly, it's no fun. 204 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:56,910 But when the game is over... 205 00:11:57,390 --> 00:11:58,870 And the game is over here. 206 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:01,990 It's time to sign the papers and move on. 207 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:05,250 Do you still have those blue cowboy boots? 208 00:12:07,390 --> 00:12:09,930 No. I love the way you looked at them. 209 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:14,130 I remember you wore them on the bus to Reno. What are you going to do? 210 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:16,570 Are you going to sign that paper or not? 211 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:19,450 Not? 212 00:12:19,770 --> 00:12:22,550 Tim, we're supposed to get married on Saturday. 213 00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:25,070 You cannot prevent them from getting married, Tim. 214 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:28,750 Eventually, we will get an annulment or a divorce, whether you agree to it or 215 00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:31,230 not, and Rosalie will be free to marry whoever she wants. 216 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:35,130 Well, maybe she'll change her mind by then and decide to stay married to me. 217 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:57,869 That's him there. 218 00:12:57,870 --> 00:12:58,870 Hey, Tim. 219 00:12:59,990 --> 00:13:03,530 You can't come back here. I told you, boss, I'd only keep you a minute. Why 220 00:13:03,530 --> 00:13:04,530 don't you come over here? 221 00:13:06,250 --> 00:13:07,250 Listen, 222 00:13:08,510 --> 00:13:12,010 I think we may have all gotten a little carried away by emotion yesterday. What 223 00:13:12,010 --> 00:13:13,010 do you think? 224 00:13:13,050 --> 00:13:13,869 I don't know. 225 00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:17,110 What are you talking about? I thought I owed it to you to come by here and make 226 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:19,490 sure you understand the realities of the situation. 227 00:13:20,850 --> 00:13:23,010 Rosie and me are still married. That's reality. 228 00:13:23,230 --> 00:13:25,070 Well, as far as it goes, yes, but... 229 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,540 You want to marry Benny, and you can't stop her from divorcing you. 230 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,400 You said divorce could take a year. 231 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,640 It can, but so what? 232 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,100 In the end, you still won't be married anymore. 233 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,900 Maybe yes, maybe no. 234 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,360 Tim, there's also the possibility of a criminal investigation. 235 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,220 What do you mean? Taking a minor across state lines is a crime. 236 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:51,790 Encouraging her to lie about her age on a marriage license, sex with a minor, 237 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:53,590 that could be statutory rape. 238 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:56,830 It doesn't matter what she says. 239 00:13:57,070 --> 00:13:58,130 She was under 18. 240 00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:04,410 You know what? I think you're trying to scare us, so I signed a paper. 241 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:07,390 I just want you to understand what might happen. 242 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:11,870 That's all I'm doing here, Seth. I'm not going to sign the paper. I don't care 243 00:14:11,870 --> 00:14:12,870 what you do. 244 00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:19,550 Tracy, could you tell the court how you know Mr. 245 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:22,890 Joyce? I was in his senior honors science class. 246 00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:27,330 Approximately how much of that class would you say was spent discussing the 247 00:14:27,330 --> 00:14:28,370 origins of life? 248 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:33,090 Out of the 15 -week semester, I'd say we spent about three weeks on it. And what 249 00:14:33,090 --> 00:14:34,750 did you talk about during those discussions? 250 00:14:35,090 --> 00:14:39,150 We talked about evolution theory, and we talked about creation science theory, 251 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:42,010 and then we discussed the strengths and weaknesses of both. 252 00:14:42,270 --> 00:14:42,869 Did Mr. 253 00:14:42,870 --> 00:14:45,790 Joyce encourage debate among the students on those ideas? 254 00:14:46,110 --> 00:14:47,049 Oh, absolutely. 255 00:14:47,050 --> 00:14:50,610 More than half our grade depended on class participation. Did Mr. 256 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:55,210 Joyce ever tell you that evolution was wrong and creation science was right? 257 00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:58,810 No. What did you believe in before you took Mr. Joyce's class, Tracy? 258 00:14:59,210 --> 00:15:00,350 I believed in evolution. 259 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:01,930 And what do you believe in now? 260 00:15:02,670 --> 00:15:07,410 Evolution. I've questioned it on occasion, but I still believe that's 261 00:15:07,410 --> 00:15:08,950 how life on Earth came into being. 262 00:15:09,210 --> 00:15:10,370 I have nothing further. 263 00:15:12,119 --> 00:15:15,460 Tracy, when Mr. Joyce taught creationism, did he do so critically? 264 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,760 I'm not sure I know what you mean. 265 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:20,420 Did he place it in any historical context? 266 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:24,680 Did he mention, for example, the scientific impossibility of the world 267 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:25,920 into being in six days? 268 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:30,740 He said there were things in both evolution theory and creation science 269 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:33,060 that don't have scientific explanations yet. 270 00:15:33,260 --> 00:15:37,140 Did Mr. Joyce give as much credibility to creationism as he did to evolution? 271 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:39,690 Yes. Were there any students who objected to that? 272 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:42,790 Objection calls for hearsay. I'll allow it. 273 00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:44,610 Tracy? 274 00:15:45,050 --> 00:15:48,570 Yes, there were students who objected. And how did Mr. Joyce respond to those 275 00:15:48,570 --> 00:15:49,570 objections? 276 00:15:49,710 --> 00:15:52,830 He said any students who felt uncomfortable could go to the library. 277 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:54,270 Anyone take him up on that? 278 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:57,130 No. Why do you suppose that is? 279 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:01,270 Objection calls for the witness to testify to the operation of another 280 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:04,290 mind. I am asking the witness for an opinion about her peers, Your Honor. 281 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,590 Objection is overruled. 282 00:16:05,870 --> 00:16:09,450 Witness may answer. Tracy, why do you suppose no one left the class? 283 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:10,730 I don't know. 284 00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:16,210 Maybe it didn't seem so bad after all, or maybe they wanted to be exposed to a 285 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:18,730 different point of view. Do you think it's possible they just didn't want to 286 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:21,570 stand out from their peers, no matter how uncomfortable they felt? 287 00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:25,610 Objection. Sustained. Do you like to stand out from your peers, Tracy? 288 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:27,990 No. No. 289 00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:29,990 Thank you. I have nothing further. 290 00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:32,310 Witness may step down. 291 00:16:37,390 --> 00:16:39,170 Tell me that I'm dreaming. 292 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:40,450 This is unbelievable. 293 00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:42,450 How could she make us wear these? 294 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:45,710 Well, she's not exactly Coco Chanel, Denise. 295 00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:48,970 This is Beyond, not Chanel. This is Beyond's queen. 296 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:50,670 Don't come in. 297 00:16:52,110 --> 00:16:53,210 Laugh and you're a dead man. 298 00:16:53,710 --> 00:16:56,910 Did Rosalie describe these ensembles to you beforehand? 299 00:16:57,490 --> 00:17:00,430 She told us she would order things that we would wear again. 300 00:17:01,210 --> 00:17:02,550 Excuse me while I change. 301 00:17:03,550 --> 00:17:04,550 No, it's... 302 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:08,530 It's not so bad. Are you kidding? I feel like Little Bo Peep. 303 00:17:08,990 --> 00:17:12,050 It's a bridesmaid's outfit. I don't care, Stuart. I don't want to go out in 304 00:17:12,050 --> 00:17:13,130 public looking like this. 305 00:17:13,390 --> 00:17:14,348 It's no big deal. 306 00:17:14,349 --> 00:17:17,710 What do you mean? I mean that everybody will primarily be looking at the bride 307 00:17:17,710 --> 00:17:20,109 anyway. Will you primarily be looking at the bride? 308 00:17:20,670 --> 00:17:22,650 No, but it doesn't matter to me what you're wearing. 309 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:24,510 Uh -huh. 310 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:29,730 I said the wrong thing. 311 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:30,649 Forget it. 312 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:33,590 No. It's not that I don't care what you're wearing. 313 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:36,390 It's that what you're wearing has no effect on me. 314 00:17:37,090 --> 00:17:41,730 No, what I mean is it doesn't change the way I think about you. You know, I know 315 00:17:41,730 --> 00:17:42,950 that you're capable of looking good. 316 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:47,590 I mean, you do look good. 317 00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:51,990 In that dress, you look good. You know, not everybody could get away with 318 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:53,430 wearing a dress like that, but you... 319 00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:03,520 Eli, I'm changing. 320 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:04,940 Why are you changing in here? 321 00:18:05,220 --> 00:18:08,080 Because the ladies' room is fully occupied. Now, can you please close the 322 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:11,440 Eli, close the door from the outside. 323 00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:13,500 Oh. I'll just be a minute, okay? 324 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,960 Should I take my briefcase or leave my briefcase? Eli! I'll leave my briefcase. 325 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Okay, I'm leaving. 326 00:18:27,060 --> 00:18:30,660 You know, I find that certain theological questions come to mind 327 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:32,759 Is that right? 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Well, I wonder about the nature of things. Sin, the revelation of God, 329 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,340 The Bible has a good deal to say on all those subjects, Arnold. I find myself 330 00:18:42,340 --> 00:18:46,640 thinking Thessalonians says one thing, Obadiah says something else. What's the 331 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,520 story? Tell me something, Arnold. 332 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,840 Have you always been such a keen student of the Bible? 333 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:55,880 No, sir, I haven't. To tell you the truth, your daughter has awakened in me 334 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,600 real hunger for spiritual direction. 335 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,060 Look, I have to get some work done before I go back to court. 336 00:19:01,770 --> 00:19:02,770 Lunch is here. Ah. 337 00:19:03,170 --> 00:19:04,270 You like meatball sandwiches? 338 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:08,130 Excuse me? Place not far from here makes great meatball sandwiches. I wanted to 339 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:10,830 buy you from there, Ben, because you like this place. So we went there 340 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:12,350 By the way, Dominic Newtby. 341 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:13,690 How do you do? 342 00:19:13,810 --> 00:19:16,490 Dominic, this is Jane's father, Reverend Holiday. 343 00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:18,250 Reverend, how do you do? 344 00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:20,130 Fine. Nice to meet you. 345 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:23,070 How's the plans for the wedding coming, Benny? 346 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:24,750 Not so good. 347 00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:28,430 Hey, don't worry, Benno. We'll get there. Be good, everybody. 348 00:19:29,030 --> 00:19:30,030 Thank you. 349 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:35,150 You know, I'm surprised Jane has never mentioned you to her mother or me. 350 00:19:35,370 --> 00:19:36,990 You seem to know each other very well. 351 00:19:39,030 --> 00:19:40,410 Not as well as I'd like to. 352 00:19:42,090 --> 00:19:46,130 Mr. Osborne, as president of the school board, is it your policy that once you 353 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:49,830 hire a teacher, he or she can teach their students anything they want? 354 00:19:50,090 --> 00:19:51,090 No, it's not. 355 00:19:51,250 --> 00:19:55,290 The curriculum for each area of study is laid out by the State Board of 356 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:56,290 Education. 357 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,020 If a teacher wants to augment that, we look at the additional materials, and 358 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:03,480 then we make a determination as to whether or not it's appropriate. 359 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:04,860 I see. 360 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,320 And is creation science part of the established curriculum? 361 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,020 No, it is not. According to the State Board of Education, creationism, or 362 00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:20,840 creation science, if you will, is a religious and not a scientific 363 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,880 for the origins of life. And as such, it has no place in a public high school 364 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,880 science class. 365 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:31,560 But don't the students have the right to hear and discuss a variety of points of 366 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,380 view? In a science class, students have the right to hear and discuss science. 367 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:39,080 Mr. Joyce was not teaching science. He was teaching religion. 368 00:20:39,460 --> 00:20:43,120 And in your opinion, was that alone sufficient grounds for termination? 369 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,660 Absolutely. He'd been given numerous warnings. 370 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:48,270 and willfully ignored them. 371 00:20:48,770 --> 00:20:51,590 I think those grounds are eminently sufficient. 372 00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:52,990 I have nothing further. 373 00:20:53,610 --> 00:20:58,550 Mr. Osborne, are there circumstances under which you deem the discussion of 374 00:20:58,550 --> 00:20:59,550 religion permissible? 375 00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:06,490 Yes, there are. In a social studies class, literature class, but not in a 376 00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:07,429 science class. 377 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:08,810 Why not in a science class? 378 00:21:09,130 --> 00:21:13,390 Because when you teach biblical explanations of historical events under 379 00:21:13,390 --> 00:21:14,390 heading of science... 380 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,560 The tacit implication is that they are true. Is it possible, Mr. 381 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:21,340 Osborne, that for some people they are true? 382 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,580 What is true for some people does not constitute science. 383 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:25,980 Are they true for you? 384 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:28,960 I don't take the Bible literally, no. 385 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,120 And you want to make sure that nobody else does either. Objection. I want to 386 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:37,020 make sure we're not allowing a high school biology class to be used to 387 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:40,480 fundamentalist Christian point of view. Does a belief in the Bible make one a 388 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,740 fundamentalist Christian, Mr. 389 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:42,940 Osborne? 390 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:47,630 No. I did not mean to suggest that it did. 391 00:21:48,910 --> 00:21:50,010 I have nothing further. 392 00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:51,570 Witness is excused. 393 00:21:57,670 --> 00:21:59,110 You want I should talk to him? 394 00:21:59,330 --> 00:22:00,570 What would you say to him? 395 00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:03,730 I'd straighten him out. Don't worry about what I'd say. 396 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:06,530 Arnie already talked to him. He won't sign. 397 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:11,430 Hey, Denny, all due respect, Arnie's a lawyer. 398 00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:14,670 The situation calls for a different approach. 399 00:22:14,910 --> 00:22:17,990 Arnie goes in with the briefcase, the big words. I go in with a bing, with a 400 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:18,990 bang. It's done. 401 00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:22,770 Hey, Benny, did Arnie get his sign? 402 00:22:23,130 --> 00:22:25,430 No. What are we going to do? 403 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:27,070 I don't know. 404 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:32,330 The place has been reserved because the food, the dresses, the invitations have 405 00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:33,330 been sent. 406 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:35,590 What's the band? I got a six -piece band coming. 407 00:22:35,890 --> 00:22:37,350 I've got to talk to you, Benny. 408 00:22:40,790 --> 00:22:42,890 What? Oh, you want a little privacy? 409 00:22:43,290 --> 00:22:44,290 Fine. 410 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:47,690 Let me know if you want me to take care of it, Ben. 411 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:54,390 I don't want you to be mad at me anymore. 412 00:22:56,490 --> 00:23:01,110 Ever since I told you about that guy, you've been mad at me. I don't want you 413 00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:02,350 be mad at me anymore. 414 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:04,050 Do you still love him? 415 00:23:04,270 --> 00:23:06,070 I never loved him. 416 00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:08,670 Then why did you marry him? 417 00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:12,370 That would be fun. 418 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:19,270 Anyway, you had someone who you did love. You told me that yourself. 419 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:20,910 And not the same. 420 00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:23,110 I told you about her. 421 00:23:23,530 --> 00:23:25,730 Tim is not a secret. 422 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:28,470 I forgot about him. 423 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:32,150 I do that sometimes. I forget about things. 424 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:34,390 Maybe you'll forget about me. 425 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,800 I could never forget about you, Benny. 426 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,320 I love you. 427 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,760 So, how do you gentlemen feel about your firm being placed in the service of 428 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Christ Jesus? 429 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,640 Pretty good. 430 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,100 Some of us. Our little girl may be the standard bearer, but it's you people who 431 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,400 are making it possible for her to go forward. 432 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,800 Daddy. Well, Reverend, we have nothing but the highest regard for your 433 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,360 She's done nothing but great work since she got here. When Jane told us she was 434 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,260 going to work as a lawyer in Los Angeles, we said, dear Jesus, give her 435 00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:24,520 strength to keep the devil under her feet. Keep old Slewfoot from snatching 436 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,220 little girl away. And I can't tell you how happy we are that she's living here 437 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:31,120 and still doing the work of the Lord. 438 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Dad, we need to get to court. 439 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:35,360 I'll see you gentlemen at the wedding. 440 00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:39,680 You're going to the wedding? Then he asked me to officiate. 441 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:45,440 Yikes. Well, there's Goyim and there's Goyim. 442 00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:51,580 Tim. 443 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Go away. 444 00:24:57,020 --> 00:24:58,540 I want to talk to you. 445 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200 You can't scare me. You've already tried. 446 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:04,180 I'm not trying to scare you. 447 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,280 I just want to talk to you. 448 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:11,580 Come here. 449 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:19,540 What do you want? 450 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:22,840 I want you to sign that paper. 451 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:26,920 I don't want to. I want to marry Rosalie this Saturday. 452 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,220 She's already married. 453 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,280 She wants to be married to me. 454 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:33,240 Oh, yeah? How come you're so great? 455 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,060 I'm not so great. 456 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,320 You think you're smarter than me? 457 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,320 No. You think you're better than me because you work in an office and I work 458 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,319 a kitchen? 459 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,560 No. Then how come you get to marry her? How come you get everything you want? 460 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,640 Because she loves me. 461 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:51,560 She could love me, too. 462 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:54,040 She wants to love me. 463 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,160 That was a long time ago. 464 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,099 I don't care. 465 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,240 I want a wife, too. 466 00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:02,440 You can have a wife. It just can't be Rosalie. 467 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:06,950 I don't know anybody else. 468 00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:11,490 I got to get back to work. 469 00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:17,290 Tim, would you... Would you please sign that paper? 470 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:25,410 Would you please tell the court your occupation, sir? I'm a research 471 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:30,250 and an advisor on science curriculum for the State Board of Education. 472 00:26:30,550 --> 00:26:33,050 My specialty is origins of life theory. 473 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:37,380 Now, in your view... Does the biblical explanation for the origins of life 474 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:38,540 qualify as science? 475 00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:40,780 No, it does not. Why does it not? 476 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:46,300 In science, one bases one's conclusions on scientific methodology, on empirical 477 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,360 observation. Now, how does this differ from creationism, Doctor? 478 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,160 Creationism starts with a conclusion, as set out in the Bible in Genesis. 479 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:58,080 Then goes about finding data and ways to interpret that data to support the 480 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,600 conclusion. I think I'm safe in saying that the body of scientific knowledge 481 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:07,440 our civilization, draws on does not support the notion that the world as we 482 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,460 it was created in six days. 483 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,840 No further questions. 484 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,260 You believe in the theory of evolution, isn't that right, Doctor? 485 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,700 It isn't a theory, Miss Halliday. 486 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:23,900 It's an observable fact, like the shape of the Earth, the speed of light. Is the 487 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:26,940 origin of the first life form found on Earth? 488 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,600 An observable fact? 489 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:34,300 Not yet, no, but there are various theories that seek to explain it. Is the 490 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,780 development of DNA an observable fact? 491 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,340 Not yet, no, but again, there are a number of theories. 492 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,820 But those are just theories, isn't that right, Doctor? 493 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,220 They are scientifically grounded, but yes, they are theories. 494 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:49,800 That would lead one to conclude, would it not, Doctor, that there are things 495 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,460 about the universe that can't be explained with observable scientific 496 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,060 Not yet, no. 497 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,580 So not yet, but definitely not God. 498 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,820 Miss Halliday, if we pointed to the existence of God, every time we came up 499 00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:05,120 against something that we couldn't explain, we'd still be living in the 500 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,740 Ages. Isn't part of not living in the Dark Ages that we are free to consider a 501 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:12,360 wide array of ideas and beliefs? You can consider whatever you want, Miss 502 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,840 Halliday. What you can't do... 503 00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:20,370 is place religious mythology on the same pedestal as evolutionary science. In 504 00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:22,350 other words, you want the pedestal all to yourself. 505 00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:24,130 Objection. Nothing further. 506 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:33,270 You're still brooding. Why are you still brooding? 507 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:34,489 I'm not brooding. 508 00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:35,490 Yeah, you are. 509 00:28:35,770 --> 00:28:39,470 Ever since I said whatever it was I said about your dress, you've been in a full 510 00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:40,470 -on brood. 511 00:28:40,890 --> 00:28:43,290 It was a painful thing to hear, Stuart. Why? 512 00:28:44,370 --> 00:28:46,590 You know that I still have desire for you, don't you? 513 00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:49,630 I guess I don't know it as much as I used to know it. 514 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:53,810 Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that aren't the way they used to be, huh? 515 00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:58,050 Like what else? 516 00:28:59,790 --> 00:29:04,250 Like one's desire doesn't come to the fore as often as it used to. 517 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:07,090 We work hard all day. 518 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:09,290 We've got a kid at home. We're tired. 519 00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:12,150 Our stamina isn't what it used to be. 520 00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:15,490 I don't want to require stamina, Stuart. 521 00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:18,570 I don't want our marriage to be something that we endure. 522 00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:24,290 Why do you read these vast, gloomy passages into everything I say? 523 00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:27,630 There will be periods of time when the fire is out, yes. 524 00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:31,330 But that doesn't mean I don't love you. It doesn't mean I don't desire you. It 525 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:32,490 probably just means that I'm tired. 526 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:34,150 Fine. 527 00:29:35,630 --> 00:29:36,790 And now she says fine. 528 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:40,170 And now she is not going to let up on me. 529 00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:45,440 Because I haven't demonstrated the requisite amount of sympathy or passion 530 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,020 whatever the hell it is I'm supposed to demonstrate. 531 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,560 I'll tell you something, honey. 532 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Demonstrations of passion are supposed to arise spontaneously. 533 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,820 And it doesn't help matters that I live in fear of offending you all the time. 534 00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:01,700 That I think you're going to jump down my throat every time I might make an 535 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:02,720 inappropriate remark. 536 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Think about that. 537 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,900 And think about what you might have done if the fire is out to put it out. 538 00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:16,150 What do you want, Arnie? 539 00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:17,770 He said he wanted to see you. 540 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:23,070 What do you want? 541 00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:25,510 I came to sign the paper. 542 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:26,710 You did? 543 00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:28,490 Yeah, I didn't do it because of you. 544 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:32,530 And I didn't do it because of you either. I did it because of Rosalie. 545 00:30:33,310 --> 00:30:34,310 That's okay. 546 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:39,610 But I want you to give this to her before the wedding. 547 00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:42,430 May I inquire as to what is in there? No. 548 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:44,370 And you can't... 549 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:45,890 Look at what's inside there, either. 550 00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:47,770 You gotta promise not to look. 551 00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:49,590 Oh, okay. 552 00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,810 You also gotta promise that you'll give it to her. 553 00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:54,690 Okay. 554 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:57,950 So you promise? 555 00:30:59,970 --> 00:31:00,970 I promise. 556 00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,030 Where do I sign? 557 00:31:07,630 --> 00:31:08,630 Right there. 558 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 You're getting married. 559 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:25,180 Yeah. 560 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:28,240 You may proceed with your closing, Ms. Halliday. 561 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,740 Michael Joyce is a teacher. 562 00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:37,740 His job was to prepare a group of students to go out into the world, to 563 00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:39,540 them. That's what he loved to do. 564 00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:40,860 That's what he did. 565 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:45,980 What he refused to do was put blinders on his students, to tell them to ask 566 00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:50,760 questions, but only these questions, to look for answers, but don't look over 567 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760 there. Don't even look over there. 568 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,800 When he didn't comply, when he refused to narrow his students' vision, he was 569 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,680 fired. Michael Joyce is not the first to refuse to be bound by convention, to 570 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,600 refuse to adhere to a set of ideas and beliefs held out to him as the one and 571 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,600 only truth. 572 00:32:10,670 --> 00:32:14,890 That's what Galileo did, that's what Charles Darwin did, and that is also 573 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:15,890 John Scopes did. 574 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:20,810 In Dayton, Tennessee in 1925, those in power would permit only the teaching of 575 00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:27,770 creationism. In Los Angeles, California in 1994, those in power permit only the 576 00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:28,770 teaching of evolution. 577 00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:34,370 In both cases, those in power have sought to cut off the field of inquiry 578 00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:37,790 forcibly impose their view of the world onto everyone else. 579 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,880 service that we can do Michael Joyce's students is to permit them to make up 580 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,880 their own minds. 581 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:51,120 We ask that you reinstate Michael Joyce with full back pay and allow him to 582 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,120 resume teaching. 583 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,300 Michael Joyce's job was to teach science to high school students. 584 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,560 When he signed his contract, he agreed to an authorized curriculum. 585 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,580 and he agreed to follow the directives of his principal and his school board. 586 00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:13,020 has not done either of those things. 587 00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:17,020 Now, the plaintiff contends that the authorized curriculum was unreasonably 588 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,940 narrow, that those directives were without justification. 589 00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:26,160 They're wrong, ladies and gentlemen. The fact is that the United States 590 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,060 Constitution requires the separation of church and state. 591 00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:35,800 Despite plaintiff's claims to the contrary, what Michael Joyce did was in 592 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,920 violation of that. 593 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,240 He was teaching religion as if it was science. 594 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,260 He was using his authority and his influence as a teacher to propagate his 595 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:48,840 religious views, and he can't do that. 596 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,420 Now, it doesn't matter that his students want him to continue. It doesn't matter 597 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:58,060 that he himself is utterly sincere in his beliefs. What matters here is that a 598 00:33:58,060 --> 00:34:00,320 school board is upholding its responsibility. 599 00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:05,250 for keeping religious teachings out of the public school because the First 600 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,230 Amendment requires them to. 601 00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:11,389 I ask that you find for the defendant. 602 00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:16,710 They're coming out. 603 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:28,790 How do you respond to charges that your client represents an encroachment on 604 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:32,429 public education by members of the religious right? I would categorically 605 00:34:32,429 --> 00:34:35,429 it. Are you in favor of the constitutional separation of church and 606 00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:39,110 I would prefer to try my case in the courtroom rather than the corridor. 607 00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:44,210 Ephesians 6 tells us to put on the full armor of God and take our stand against 608 00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:47,940 the devil's schemes. Are you connected to this case? Sir, he's not. Come on, 609 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,960 Reverend, let's go. We have to be willing to speak the word of God 610 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,320 are, Jane. My Redeemer liveth. This is what he commands me to do. 611 00:34:56,739 --> 00:34:58,640 What is it you're so afraid of, Doctor? 612 00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:02,940 I'm afraid of religious zealots like you, Reverend. Praise God, that must 613 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:03,960 I'm doing my job. 614 00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:07,740 Whenever I see the power of Satan lined up against me... 615 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:11,930 Whenever I see the eyes of schoolchildren turned upward so that the 616 00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:16,670 revealed, and that truth is not revealed, and that truth is hidden and 617 00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:22,610 and denied, then I have only to turn to the nail -scarred hands of Calvary for 618 00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:23,610 my strength. 619 00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:30,590 Now we're going to lead off with the miniature seared ahi, then we go to the 620 00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:34,050 miniature lasagna, then the miniature panini, and then the miniature bellini. 621 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:35,650 Now, is everyone aware of that? 622 00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:36,870 Yes, ma 'am. 623 00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:41,750 Have you seen Rosalie? 624 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:43,230 She's getting dressed. 625 00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:45,690 Where? Upstairs in the bedroom. Why? 626 00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:47,590 Well, I have to give her something. 627 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:51,210 Oh, no, Benny, that's not possible. You're not permitted to see the bride 628 00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:52,109 the wedding. 629 00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:53,110 That's a lot of dough, right? 630 00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:55,870 Dominic, how many times are you going to tell me that you paid for the van? 631 00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:58,390 I wasn't aware I told you. Hello, Denise. Don't you look wonderful? 632 00:35:58,610 --> 00:35:59,830 Thanks. Hello, Dominic. 633 00:36:00,670 --> 00:36:05,210 Hello. I can't see Rosalie before the wedding? Of course not. It's bad luck. 634 00:36:06,090 --> 00:36:07,750 Would you give this to her? 635 00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:09,490 What is it? 636 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,760 Well, I don't know. I promised Tim I'd get it to her before the wedding, and I 637 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,940 promised him I wouldn't look inside. 638 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,920 I'll give it to her right now. 639 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,960 I wonder what it is. 640 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560 It's in an envelope, so chances are it's a letter. 641 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,340 You think that's a letter? 642 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:26,560 What are you worried about, Benny? She's marrying you. 643 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:30,480 They tell me I can't get a drink before the ceremony. What is this? They told me 644 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,680 the same thing. It's the mother. 645 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:34,230 Barney, you think I should have looked in that envelope? 646 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:35,109 For what? 647 00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:36,110 I don't know. 648 00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:39,910 See what he said or... Benno, do yourself a favor. Don't start looking 649 00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:42,470 rocks. You've got a past. She's got a past. 650 00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:45,170 You start delving into it, you're only going to cause yourself a lot of 651 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:47,490 unnecessary anguish. In other words, forget about it. Exactly. 652 00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:48,990 Meanwhile, have you seen the band? 653 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:51,870 No. I hired a six -piece band. I haven't seen Musician One. 654 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:54,450 Don't worry about what came before the wedding. 655 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,110 Start worrying about what comes after. 656 00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:11,310 Don't tell me you're never going to talk to your old father again. 657 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:15,090 I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes yesterday. 658 00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:16,570 You're not the least bit sorry. 659 00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:19,760 You saw the opportunity to preach, and you preached. 660 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,320 Preaching's what I do, daughter. I was put on this earth so I would preach. And 661 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,600 I was put on this earth to be a lawyer. And from what I can see, you're doing a 662 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,200 fine job as a lawyer, as well as being a decent young Christian woman. Why 663 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,700 wouldn't you stop yesterday when I asked you to? Why did you embarrass me? 664 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:38,480 Because some things are more important than your embarrassment. This is where I 665 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,459 work. 666 00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:43,240 You showed up unannounced and uninvited and proceeded to take over. I left 667 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,420 Oklahoma so you wouldn't be able to do that to me. 668 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:46,900 Is that why you laughed? 669 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,560 Among other reasons, yes. 670 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,560 Can we talk about this? 671 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,280 I'm due in court. 672 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,740 Has the jury reached a verdict? 673 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,160 We have, Your Honor. What say you? On the claim of wrongful termination, we 674 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,160 for the defendant. 675 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,660 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 676 00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:15,790 I'm sorry, Michael. 677 00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:18,970 We knew it was a long shot. 678 00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:20,570 We can appeal. 679 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:24,190 I think I'd rather just teach someplace else, maybe in a private school. 680 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:25,890 God's been bragging on you, Michael. 681 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,470 I know you're not going to walk away now. 682 00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:32,570 We have to go to a wedding, Dad, and this is something that Michael needs to 683 00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:33,570 decide for himself. 684 00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:35,350 I'll call you. 685 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:36,670 Thank you. 686 00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:39,610 Oh, my God, please. 687 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,340 I just don't think it's a good idea that you open it now. 688 00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:46,360 But he asked me to. Well, he had no right to ask you to. 689 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,640 Mom. All right, go ahead. 690 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,840 Open it. 691 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,760 What does it say? 692 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,500 I love you then, and I love you now. 693 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:02,180 Tim. 694 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,240 This is all I needed. 695 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,380 Fran, why don't we... Would you help me with this sleeve? I'm having trouble. 696 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,480 Sure. 697 00:39:19,340 --> 00:39:20,340 You okay? 698 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Yeah. 699 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:31,240 Benjamin, do you take Rosalie to be your wife, to love and to cherish from this 700 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,300 day forward, for better or for worse, until death do you part? 701 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,040 I do. 702 00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:41,240 And do you, Rosalie, take Benjamin to be your husband, to love and to cherish 703 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,540 from this day forward, for better or worse, until death do you part? 704 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,400 I do. 705 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:48,380 Rings, please. 706 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,480 With this ring, I thee wed. 707 00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:59,100 With this ring, I thee wed. 708 00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:01,120 It's supposed to put up my finger. 709 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,380 With this ring, I thee wed. 710 00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:13,140 With this ring, I thee wed. 711 00:40:15,060 --> 00:40:17,620 I now pronounce you husband and wife. 712 00:40:18,820 --> 00:40:20,180 You may kiss the bride. 713 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:33,850 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. 714 00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:34,908 and Mrs. 715 00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:36,090 Benjamin Dole. 716 00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:36,930 What 717 00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:44,790 is 718 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:45,790 it about weddings? 719 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:47,390 It's their monumentality. 720 00:40:47,730 --> 00:40:48,730 Is that what it is? 721 00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:55,650 Two people of transversely seemingly impenetrable golf found one another, 722 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:57,670 in love, and changed their lives accordingly. 723 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,420 It's amazing that it ever happened, isn't it? 724 00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:02,380 Yeah, it is. 725 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,820 You know, the wildest I've ever been was at a wedding. 726 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,100 What do you mean by wild? 727 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:12,900 Let's just say I did things I don't ordinarily do. 728 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,440 What kind of things? 729 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:23,140 Well, I drank a little too much, got carried away, I took off with the 730 00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:27,380 best man, lost several articles of clothing, you know, things like that. 731 00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:28,620 Done that? 732 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,120 Uh -huh. 733 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:35,900 Me too. 734 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,860 Say, you still seeing that dead? 735 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,160 Oh, yeah. 736 00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:41,420 Why didn't you bring her? 737 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,940 I think there were going to be a few too many lawyers here for her. 738 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,760 Oh, hey, Jonathan. I'm hired to became a partner. Congratulations. 739 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,240 Well, are congratulations in order? 740 00:41:58,570 --> 00:41:59,570 By all means. 741 00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:04,810 Well, hold on. Hey, 742 00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:05,950 I... 743 00:42:05,950 --> 00:42:19,170 Don't 744 00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:20,710 ever tell me the fire's out. 745 00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:27,030 Well, I was wondering what was... 746 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,760 In the envelope Tim sent you. 747 00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:30,300 It was a picture. 748 00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:32,760 What kind of picture? 749 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,580 The picture of me and Tim. 750 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,000 There was no letter in there? 751 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:40,660 No, he just wrote something on the picture. 752 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,840 Would you show it to me if I asked you to? 753 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,760 Yes. 754 00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:51,740 Are you asking me to? 755 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:56,740 No. 756 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,520 S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z. 757 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,620 S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z. 758 00:43:26,740 --> 00:43:27,740 That's nice. 759 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,480 Did the band get here? 760 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,340 I don't know, Dominic. I can't find them anywhere. 761 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,100 Look at me. 762 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,100 Sometimes I look at you, and I think you're the most beautiful woman I've 763 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:43,400 seen. Eli. 764 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,500 I don't think it a lot. 765 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,080 I don't allow myself to think it a lot. 766 00:43:48,940 --> 00:43:50,460 We've known each other for a long time. 767 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,700 We work together. We're friends. We've never been anything other than friends. 768 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:57,540 And every now and then the thought crosses your mind, right? 769 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,320 It's okay. 770 00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:00,700 It crosses mine, too. 771 00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:03,740 It's an impulse, though, isn't it? 772 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,320 Everyone has impulses. Some you act on, some you don't. 773 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:11,200 I think I'll interrupt this dinner party by sitting on my food. 774 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,760 No, I won't do that. 775 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,720 I think I'll... 776 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,080 Ask a complete stranger to loan me $50 ,000. 777 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,760 No, I won't do that. 778 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:23,300 Oh, 779 00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:30,660 my 780 00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:31,660 God. 781 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:51,250 I've been looking for you. 782 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:53,910 What's wrong? 783 00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:55,750 Nothing. 784 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:58,990 Well, you're out here all by yourself. Something is wrong. 785 00:45:00,670 --> 00:45:03,510 Of course something is wrong. Your father's been out here. 786 00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:06,050 So my father's been out here so long. 787 00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:09,910 So ever since he arrived, you've been reminded of all the reasons you left 788 00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:11,150 Oklahoma in the first place. 789 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:14,810 The sense of yourself as an attorney and undermined. 790 00:45:15,830 --> 00:45:18,670 The sense of yourself as a woman who's been conflicted. 791 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:21,360 You don't know the first thing about me. 792 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,160 I think I do. 793 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,280 And I'm telling you, you don't. 794 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,820 I don't want to be psychoanalyzed, and I don't want to be preached to. 795 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,280 Believe it or not, I am not some empty vessel waiting to be filled. 796 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,580 I know what I want. 797 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:40,280 I know what I need. 798 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,840 And I am perfectly capable of deciding how I want to live my life. 799 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,480 Now I'm go